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Saffity

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"Getting strong enough to keep two tiny humans from unaliving themselves."
Hello hello, we are still under the freezer dome, but surviving. :shiver:

Once I got home last night I was NOT going out to the gym, no thanks. So we ran around and had fun at home. Had a quick supper, tossed both kids through baths, danced a little bit more, then got the kids to bed. :zzz:

Sadly, while the kids have been doing wonderfully for sleep recently, teething eases off for no child, and poor Biggie was up at 4:30 and Daddy would not suffice, so I have been up since 4:30. Munchie slept in to 6:30, and then we got through morning routine relatively easily, if a bit rushed. :shine:

We had the scale out last night for Munchie, because we're going to start a weekly weigh in for her to make sure she's increasing. The amount her spine and pelvic bones stick out is still concerning. Hubby doesn't often do Munchie's bath so he hasn't seen how bad it is recently, but last night Biggie was not letting me go, so he saw the full picture. She's still eating well, but we're only maybe 2 weeks into that, which doesn't immediately resolve 4 months of not much eating. Hubby's mom was telling him the other day that he should "watch how many snacks you're giving Munchie, you don't want to give her too much..." with implications of Munchie becoming fat. After Hubby saw Munchie's state last night, our current house rule is: if she's hungry, she eats. :watermelon:

I decided this morning to step on the scale. Looking in the mirror I can tell I've lost inches, but wanted to see what the scale said. Still at 178.2 but, as is standard for me, I tone up before I drop pounds. The big thing is how I feel and how my clothes fit, and both are heading in the direction I want, so that's what's most important. :nod:

Tonight is going to be frigid again, and Biggie will most likely still have teething pains, so I don't see myself heading to the gym. I will make sure that I endeavour to do some extra exercizes at home with the kids though. Maybe I'll do a plank and have them crawl under me as many times as possible before I have to drop. :flat:

I also recently started Fitness RPG which uses the step tracker that's connected to your phone to give your character XP to level up and continue his quest. So far it's kind of fun, a little tedious with all the different things to level up and the number of ads that come up, but I can over look that for a cute little game. I'm all about fitness games, though sadly a number of apps I used to use seem to have disappeared. If anyone knows of any decent ones for iOS (except Zombies, Run! or The Walk as I already have them) please do let me know. :dancy:

I'm thinking of taking a page from @princess_sarena and having a little RP journal where my character continues through whatever story I'm doing (especially with me enjoying a variety of solo/journal rpgs). I think it would be fun and creative, and I want to get back to sketching a bit too, so could include that with my extended story. :bounce:
 

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"“We both know that there are real monsters. But there’s also real heroes that fight monsters. And that’s me” - Buffy"
I'm thinking of taking a page from @princess_sarena and having a little RP journal where my character continues through whatever story I'm doing (especially with me enjoying a variety of solo/journal rpgs). I think it would be fun and creative, and I want to get back to sketching a bit too, so could include that with my extended story. :bounce:
DO IT DO IT DO IT!!!

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Saffity

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"Getting strong enough to keep two tiny humans from unaliving themselves."
Hoo ahh, ok, so the frozen tundra is slowly moving itself back north and we are getting a small reprieve (it's only going to be -12C tonight.. whoot) :shiver:

Looks like the next real chance I have to get back to the gym is Friday as it's still going to feel too cold tonight and Hubby's game night is tomorrow. (I say this with uncertainty, because if it's not too bad I may still go.. it really comes down to how Bedtime With Biggie (BWB) goes). :worry:

Speaking of which, the Biggie teething is continuing. For the most part he's doing ok, playing like normal, being his normal crazy self, he's just more cuddly and more stubborn. He does NOT like his high chair now, it is becoming a struggle to get him into it. If he's decided it's not happening, he just keeps his hips straight and no amount of pushing is getting it done. (This is the kid who at 6 months would not let the doctor bend his hips to do his checkup and she was literally lifting his whole body by his heels.) We are now starting to eat at the dining room table, so that necessitates the higher chair, but this chair converts to work for 2 kids, and we can remove the 'high chair' portion with the tray, and just have him sit in it like a booster seat (hopefully, if he decides that acceptable.) Otherwise, we'll just be eating in two pairs, Munchie and one adult at the dining room table, Biggie and the other adult at the kiddie table in the kitchen. :verysadkitty:

In the mental health part of things, stress goes up and down as always. I'm actually really getting into reading books again. Having a commute is allowing me to listen to audiobooks, and I'm working through ebooks on my phone, slowly but surely. The fun thing right now is that I've joined a few reading challenges on Goodreads, one competitive but with a reasonable expectation of 3 books that count, I have many more but they're books for the kids so they only count for page points. It's a balance between having the challenge be enjoyable, and the stress of getting things finished. I'm part of an advanced reader site, and I'm focusing on kids books to stay on top of release dates, while also enjoying a few adult books. I originally stressed a bit about posting the reviews, especially with branching out on my blog and social media, but then realized I don't need to post the reviews until the week of release, and once I charted that in my calendar I realized it wasn't nearly so much as I thought. :chat:

Between the gym giving me a physical outlet, and reading giving me a mental one (input by reading, output by reviewing), I'm starting to feel a bit more of a balance than I have in a while. I'm able to be Mom at home and also be Me. I may not be crafting so much right now with knitting and sewing, but that can come back when the kids don't need me so much. :approve:
 

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"Getting strong enough to keep two tiny humans from unaliving themselves."
It has been a bit of a crazy day. :twirl:

Munchie got sent home early from school yesterday. According to the teacher, she removed her shoes and chucked one at another child, then later she stabbed a different child in the eye with a straw. :shakez:

To hear Munchie tell it, she removed her shoes and hid them from the teacher, and the straw was an accident because she pulled it out too hard and hit the other child in the neck with it and the child exaggerated and lied. She's very adamant that the straw child lied about what happened. :sweet:

Of course, with her prior behaviour, and the teacher not having witnessed it herself, the stabbed child had to be believed, and since Munchie was making the classroom an unsafe place she needed to be removed from it. We had a long chat with Munchie about the fact that we could believe her, and we did to a point, but that her previous behaviour made it so when the teacher heard what happened, she had to make a judgement call. :owly:

Today apparently was better (she stayed in school all day at least), however she was using the word "Bum" and "Potty" inappropriately. This is something that has been difficult to express to her, the right and wrong ways to say words. She understands 'bad words' and will chastise me if I say 'stupid' or something similar, and she knows the REALLY bad words and not to say them and why. The difficulty is explaining what situations are ok to use certain words without laying out EVERY example for her. :smash:

Especially since she's as semantic as her father, the man who, when HIS father called him out for eating two bowls of ice cream, and his mother asked him "how many bowls of ice cream have you eaten?" he answered truthfully that he had only eaten one bowl, never mind that he was holding the second bowl in his hands, because he hadn't yet eaten it. :amused:

She pulled something recently, where in, she was given her bedtime snack, but then we watched and danced to one more video. After we had done bedtime routine and I was turning off the light, she demanded a bedtime snack, because the previous one didn't count because we watched a video between her eating it and bedtime routine. Now, the TV goes off when bedtime snack is given and I give Hubby very pointed looks about it. :stubby:

I did not make it out to the gym last night as parenthood and discussing the situation with Munchie, while also dealing with Biggie, took priority. Hubby had to run out to deal with some car stuff and I played with the kids. I was their bridge as they crawled around under me, then pushed them across the room on their stomachs over and over again, then was a wiggle worm for them to climb on. Then they ran back and forth across the room and when they got to me I did a press up with their 33-35 lb selves and got some good upper body work done. :standby:

Munchie is spending the night at Gramma's because tomorrow is a PD day, and Hubby is at games night, so I'll probably do a more structured workout tonight, though whether that's Darebee designed or a video on YouTube I'm still undecided at the moment. Hubby thought he was going to be nice, Munchie was at Gramma's, if he got someone to drive him to games night, I could totally go to the gym!! Then he remembered "I have 2 kids".... :whaa:very sweet of him, but I will just enjoy my time tomorrow and go during the day on the weekend.

Otherwise it's been a pretty busy day at work, but I got everything I needed to done, and listened to over a quarter of my audiobook, so that's fun!! :shine:
 

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"Getting strong enough to keep two tiny humans from unaliving themselves."
So, in the end, I did not do an organized work out. What I did do, was walk Biggie to sleep for about 30 minutes. Then enjoyed my book and my drink. :drink:

Last night we all slept through. I heard Biggie fuss for 2 seconds and then he settled himself back down. Hubby and I are in shock! :freak:

Today was a PD day, so Munchie is with Gramma. We've got the usual Gramma complaints that Munchie is a child with her own mind and opinions and not an automaton who follows every direction, but for the most part, things have been good. :dance:

Quiet day today, but I WILL be going to the gym tonight, I will have about half an hour left in my book by the time I get home and I want to finish it tonight.:massage:
 

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"Getting strong enough to keep two tiny humans from unaliving themselves."
Single mothering it today as Hubby heads an hour east with his mom to help his great aunt sort more stuff out. :makeway:

Luckily, as I said, we're reaching the point where the kids can kind of entertain themselves. This morning was filled with puzzle making and colouring. Neither kid ate particularly well, and Biggie was having quite the little fit, but I eventually got him down for his nap. Now Munchie is having a little bit of phone time, and I'm catching up on my computer stuff like here and my book reviews. :typy:

Last night I did go to the gym, I walked on the treadmill for 15 minutes then did the machine circuit they have setup, then stretched for a bit. By that point I had 40 minutes left in my book, so I took advantage of the massage chair and the massage bed. Then I grabbed a snack before heading home and sat for the last minutes in the driveway. :bouncy:

I've done something to my left wrist, it feels locked up, I'm doing some light stretching of it today, but Biggie took extra long to get down for nap. Him sitting on my forearm probably didn't help, but my biceps look awesome. :flex:

Just chilling with Munchie for a bit, I was thinking of taking the kids out for a walk since it's only -3C, but the windchill is still down around -16C so... nevermind... :surrender:

Tonight, after the kids are in bed, I'll be heading out to the gym again. We're heading back into the -20s around Thursday, so I want to get in as many trips as I can before it's too cold for me to want to go out. :shiver:
 

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"Getting strong enough to keep two tiny humans from unaliving themselves."
I have a question- please if this is too personal let me know- what’s a PD day? (Hope you don’t mind my asking)
It’s “Professional Development” for the teachers, I’ve heard it be a PA day too. The kids take the day off and the teachers do seminars.
 

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"Getting strong enough to keep two tiny humans from unaliving themselves."
I'm writing today's updated from home as Biggie is snoozing on the couch. Poor bubba popped a fever yesterday evening and it raged all night. Hubby took the night shift, hoping it would break, but no such luck, and there was no way he could watch Biggie in his exhausted state. So I stayed home from work while Munchie is at school and both my boys are sleeping. :deepsleep:

We're pretty sure it's just another episode of The Cold. I've been looking into nasal saline rinses in hopes that clearing out their sinuses we may be able to help push past this. :rainbow:

We've noticed that Munchie's diction has taken a slide and sometimes it's hard to understand her. She already had issues with L's, saying them as W's, but she's working really hard on it. She was so proud today to show Gramma that she could say "co-ca-co-LA". She has started having issues with N's and G's coming out as D's. If she really works on it, she can say them correctly, but it seems her endless plugged nose has caused her to start to say them incorrectly. She noted herself that N's and G's were hard because her nose was plugged. :daman:

That's where my thoughts of Neti Pots (which I wouldn't get, there are better options out there) and nasal rinses came from. I'm still doing research but I think after trying this Super Special Honey Drink (TM) that MIL brought back from Spain didn't help, she can't be upset with me trying this. :cheeky:

Didn't get back to the gym, hubby was wiped after helping his mom and great aunt, and Biggie wasn't well last night, however, I'm definitely feeling the weekend. All Munchie wanted to do yesterday was PE Bowman workout videos. :verysadkitty:

Seriously, if you guys have kids and want to get a good workout while having fun with them: PE Bowman and Miss Linky will hand your butt to you with the cutest child friendly voices. :surrender:

My wrist is still stiff, but getting better. I mostly notice it when I'm trying to get off the couch with Biggie and push behind me with it, I have to remember to use a fist. :move:

Other than that, once Hubby wakes up, if it's not time to go get Munchie from school, I may run over to do a quick circuit or something. Until then, I'm going to take it as a sign from the universe that I should enjoy my book. :drink:
 

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"For God so loved the world that He gave His only Son, that everyone who believes in Him will not perish, but have eternal life. John 3:16"
Do they sell YumEarth brand lollipops in your area? They have vitamin C ones that may be able to help with their immunity. Hope your little one feels better soon! :tuzki-love:
 

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"Getting strong enough to keep two tiny humans from unaliving themselves."
Well, Biggie is ok enough to go to daycare, so I'm back at work. During the day he's fine, so long as you keep his fever down with meds. Trying to get him to sleep last night was insane. He threw the biggest fit he's ever thrown. He'd ask for something and before you even moved to get it, scream that he didn't want it, then ask for it again. Round and round. His little brain was short circuiting. Eventually I found a kids show that calmed him down and he crashed, but he was up and down with hubby again. Luckily, it wasn't as bad as Sunday night. :yell:

This morning I got up and, being a Canadian, saw that Mother Nature wanted to start my day off with a workout. 2" of snow to shovel off my driveway. It's pretty! But very cold. :shiver:

Munchie actually slept in till 7 today so that was good. Hopefully it's not because she's sick too. It would be nice for her to have a decent day at school. One of the school issues is that she's had 4 teachers this year. The full time teacher she started off with had to go on medical leave for her husband, so then for the end of November, beginning of December they had a sub. Starting in January they have two part time teachers. Each teacher has different rules, levels of expectation, and the ones who came in January don't know Munchie and don't know how much she's progressed. They've just kind of labelled her the aggressive class clown child. I just hope she gets some stability over the next few months and we can help direct her to the best path through school. Yesterday she still got a note in her file for 'bad language' (she was using 'bum' and 'poop' to try and make the other kids laugh), but the teacher said it's the best day she's had with her.... out of the.... 6 she's been here. It's just frustrating. :smash:

As far as things go, I'm feeling fine thank goodness. Knocking on all the wood for that. Even shoveling today wasn't terrible, which is amazing because of how bad my knee was hurt October 2023. I really want to get back to the gym, but it really depends on Biggie. At least with Munchie enjoying doing the kiddo workout videos I'm getting some extra time in. :yas:
 

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Yesterday she still got a note in her file for 'bad language' (she was using 'bum' and 'poop' to try and make the other kids laugh)
Oh, good grief! She is playing nicely with the other children and trying to entertain them. And for this she is reprimanded?

I hope you and Munchie continue to stay well, and that Biggie recovers quickly.
Hey, and cheers for your knee giving you no issues with the shoveling!
 

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"Getting strong enough to keep two tiny humans from unaliving themselves."
Oh, good grief! She is playing nicely with the other children and trying to entertain them. And for this she is reprimanded?

I totally agree! These comments about "potty language" are from this one specific teacher who seems to be the strictest. She's only there Monday and Thursdays, which is why I'm personally so frustrated with the situation. Munchie didn't have any sort of school experience before this year. Due to having Biggie at home, and Munchie being THE youngest in her class, we kept her home for JK (which in Ontario is optional). MIL was a good teacher, and Munchie is plenty smart, but MIL is a super neat freak and germaphobe (and an anti-vaxxer to a point, we've had many 'discussions' about that, and she's upset at Hubby and Me for getting the family their flu and Covid shots every year) so she didn't take Munchie to any toddler classes at the library, or really let her play with kids at the park. It's why Munchie is going out of her way to make everyone like her, but also gets super frustrated when things don't go her way because other than Biggie, she's never had to compromise, everything has been dictated to her by MIL and was completely black or white.

Quite frankly... with MIL's potty mouth and the way she gets into it with Hubby sometimes, I'm just lucky that Munchie hasn't dropped an F-bomb, or hollered "THAT'S BS" like she did one time at her Dad. :chuckle:

Boy did I struggle to maintain a straight face that day.
 

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She's only there Monday and Thursdays, which is why I'm personally so frustrated with the situation.
Yeah. That does not seem like an optimal situation for kindergarten kids. Couldn't they find a dedicated teacher for the kindergarten class and have the job-sharing, if necessary, for older kids?

(and an anti-vaxxer
:mad:

we've had many 'discussions' about that, and she's upset at Hubby and Me for getting the family their flu and Covid shots every year
Good for you for standing up to ill-informed family pressure and doing what is necessary to protect your family. (And to protect your MIL too. The anti-vaxxers would be much worse off if the rest of us weren't doing our part to protect them through herd immunity!)

Boy did I struggle to maintain a straight face that day.
:tears:
 

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"Getting strong enough to keep two tiny humans from unaliving themselves."
Good morning, the Biggie screaming saga continues but we think we've nailed it down to a couple of culprits. :puurke:

1. Last night he was rubbing his ear before bedtime, now... that being said, he's getting his two year molars, and he was tired, but it could be the sign of fluid in his tubes again that could be heading towards ear infection so we're keeping an eye on it. :blink:

2.Secondly, we've noticed a pattern with some of his wakeups, he'll scream, demand cuddles, fight, meltdown, then wet his diaper, absolutely RIP some gas (which if he's awake enough he finds absolutely hysterical), then settles down and goes back to sleep. So, he's gassy, but where's it coming from? Well I noticed while he was having his bedtime bottle, he was sucking some air in, then forcing himself to have little burps in his throat, so I think he's not tilting his bottle enough, causing the air to get in his stomach and while he burps some of it out he doesn't get all of it, causing the middle of the night gas. Not sure how to fix this one as he's still pretty reliant on his night time bottle other than trying to ensure he's drinking it properly to get less air. :pet:

Last night the drive home was a mess so I knew I wasn't making it to the gym. We were supposed to go to Munchie's school for a webinar they put on every month, but due to the weather the babysitter for child care couldn't make it. So Hubby went and took copious notes, while I played with the kids. It's amazing the workout you can do when you're creative with little ones. The two big games were for the kids to lay on their stomachs and I push their feet to slide them across the floor (our living/play room is 30' long, the whole back of the house so there's lots of room), then I was a bridge for them to crawl under, then I was a horse for them to climb on, then Biggie found a bit of painters tape, very carefully placed it on the floor and it became a game of us having to jump over it in order. Munchie's aunt (my cousin) is a dancer, so Munchie has been starting to do some ballet videos and learning about plies and tendus and I did them with her. All told, I got a pretty decent workout just keeping the kids entertained. :celeb:

This morning Mother Nature decided I needed another workout so I got to shovel. She made it extra hard by raining in the night making the snow very heavy. Then, after I shoveled, went and got Biggie and Munchie ready for the morning, and headed back out, she'd dumped another lot of snow on everything and I had to clear the car off again. :onfire:

The drive in was nerve wracking again but I survived. We'll see if the weather holds off and I can hit the gym tonight. It's all dependent on safe driving and how well Biggie goes to sleep. I'm missing that extra book listening/reading time though. :bounce:
 

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"Getting strong enough to keep two tiny humans from unaliving themselves."
I love how your kids' idea of play is so active! You are setting them up for good habits and good health later in life! Well done!

Why did you have travel to Munchie's school for a webinar? The whole point of webinars is that people can participate in them remotely!
We try very hard to keep the kids active, especially when we're stuck inside due to the weather. Having the big room allows for us to run around a bunch, and they have a slide indoors for climbing, and is one of the reasons we do so many toddler exercize videos.

As for the webinar, it's put through the school district (Munchie attends a private school) and the cost for each parent to have access is crazy. So we go and sit in the gym while the kids play in one of the classrooms, and we get a chance to meet some of the other parents, have some coffee or tea, and chat about what we just watched or learned in person. Munchie's school is also just around the corner, if it weren't for the high school between us and her school we'd be able to walk there in less than 2 minutes in a straight line, so it's not a big deal for us to go in.
 

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Why yes! I believe we do :chuckle: Are you in Northern or Southern Ontario? And if Southern, in or out of Toronto?
Southern (I think, I'm relatively new here 😅 started in Manitoba, grew up in Quebec, switched to Ontario for grad school and haven't left yet)

Outside of Toronto. Commutable distance from where I'd go if I wanted to take over Canada :chuckle:

...or just watch boring politicians at work, I suppose :noming:
 

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Southern (I think,
Ottawa is Southern Ontario, yes. If we're talking north/south divide. Normally it's called Eastern Ontario as you all are pretty far away from the true South and The Centre of the Universe (Toronto). I think the True North is north of Superior. But then there's also the Near North, which extends down as far as Sudbury.

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"Getting strong enough to keep two tiny humans from unaliving themselves."
Yeah, I think the lines of what's Northern/Central/Eastern/Southern depend on who you're talking to. I've noticed when bumping into Ontarians in like, live stream chats, you're either "about an hour away" from Toronto, IN Toronto, or you're Northern. :chuckle:

The good news: The kids slept for the most part! Biggie woke with need of a snuggle a couple of times, but no screaming like he's demon possessed. Munchie called out in her sleep, but settled pretty quickly. :zzz:

The bad news: Biggie shared his cold, but I'm surviving. :tude:

I felt this coming on yesterday but tried to ignore it. Woke up pretty wiped today. Mostly it's a runny nose and scratchy throat, so hopefully it's a quick one. Hubby and I crashed super early last night, basically, the kids went to bed and so did we. After the last few nights with Biggie we were both just done. :crawl:

Last night Hubby had to run out and talk to a guy he's going to help out this weekend, which will leave me solo parenting, but also bring in some money. I realized after he left that both kids needed baths and I didn't have the time or ability to do them separately, so I plunked them both in the big soaker tub (that's usually grown ups only), added some bubble bath, and got them both sorted. By the end of that I felt like a superstar. :super:

They were both very cuddly last night, and when the cat got involved, my lap was very full.

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This morning I got to work and our network was down all morning, so I got to shred a lot of paper. Now that I'm connected again I get to catch up on everything I missed. I had my review yesterday, and it went well. I've only been here 6 months but they do a quarterly review so it was good to touch base and know where I stood and where I could improve. All told it went well. :moves:

Tonight Hubby's decided to play his D&D over discord and stay home, so I might get a bit of time to run to the gym. I'm not banking on it though, I'll see how everyone's feeling and probably just do some workout stuff with Munchie. She's getting better at some of the yoga poses that come up on her videos, seeing younglings trying to figure out how to hold their bodies is super cute. :lovelots:

For now I will continue to drink copious amounts of tea, and go get some Pho for lunch, it's not chicken noodle, but it's close enough. :drink:
 

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Yeah, I think the lines of what's Northern/Central/Eastern/Southern depend on who you're talking to. I've noticed when bumping into Ontarians in like, live stream chats, you're either "about an hour away" from Toronto, IN Toronto, or you're Northern.
Barrie is Northern Ontario now? LOL

:vibes: for the cold.
 

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"Getting strong enough to keep two tiny humans from unaliving themselves."
Barrie is Northern Ontario now? LOL

:vibes: for the cold.

I said "about an hour away" in all directions :P Nah I'd say it was central, I was more meaning that whenever I've been on a livestream chat on Twitch or something, that's how Ontarian's describe their location.

I remember back in the early 00's a joke going around about how "the 2010 Vancouver Olympics are so thrilled to host this athlete from the small Toronto suburb of Winnipeg" due to the spread. I remember how shocked I was to find there was no break between Milton and 'Toronto' anymore.
 

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I remember how shocked I was to find there was no break between Milton and 'Toronto' anymore.
I grew up in Milton!

One year, (many years after I'd left Milton), I was at a music festival in Guelph, and there was a band there from Milton, which they described in their own bio as "a suburb of Toronto." My immediate reaction was: What? It's not a suburb of Toronto! That's ridicu--Oh. Ugh. I guess it sort of is now.

(I mean: it's not. Legally it's still not Toronto, even after all the municipal amalgamations. Though it was certainly a part of the Toronto commuter shed, even before it got the Go Train. But yeah: I remember there being farmland between Milton and Mississauga that just isn't there anymore.)
 
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